Race Talk

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mulisha fan's request was to have a topic posted for strictly "race talk" ie: results, news, points etc.

so i guess here it is, can we sticky it? lol

[MuLiShA fAn]

alright to start things off
this is the top 10 250 points standings after round 3 in AMA motorcross.
its the newest i could find

1 Ricky Carmichael- 147 points
2 Chad Reed- 118 points
3 Kevin Windham- 98 points
4 David Vuillemin- 88 points
5 Enesto Fonseca- 79 points
6 John Dowd- 74 points
7 Travis Preston- 71 points
8 Michael Byrne- 67 points
9 James Stewart- 59 points
10 J. Laansoo- 38 points

[MuLiShA fAn]

top 10 125 point standings after round 3.

1 Mike Brown- 119 points
2 Grant Langston- 94 points
3 Mike Alessi- 93 points
4 Ivan Tedesco- 93 points
5 Brock Hepler- 86 points
6 Ryan Hughes- 82 points
7 Josh Grant- 82 points
8 Davi Millsaps- 65 points
9 D Smith- 59 points
10 Paul Carpenter- 57 points
i think browny will take the season but if not him defently langston

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250 Results
1. Ricky Carmichael SUZ 1 1
2. Kevin Windham HON 3 2
3. James Stewart KAW 2 3
4. David Vuillemin YAM 4 6
5. Ernesto Fonseca HON 5 5
6. Nick Wey HON 6 7
7. Travis Preston HON 7 9
8. John Dowd SUZ 9 8
9. Michael Byrne KAW 8 10
10. Chad Reed YAM DNF 4
11. Jason Thomas HON 10 15
12. Josh Dement SUZ 15 12
13. Justin Buckelew HON 11 16
14. Ryan Clark YAM 16 13
15. Lord 12 18



125 Results
1. Grant Langston KAW 1 2
2. Ryan Mills KTM 6 1
3. Andrew Short HON 3 3
4. Mike Alessi KTM 2 7
5. Josh Grant HON 4 6
6. Ivan Tedesco KAW 5 5
7. Mike Brown HON 10 4
8. Nate Ramsey KTM 9 8
9. Danny Smith YAM 8 12
10. Matt Walker KAW 12 9
11. Davi Millsaps SUZ 7 15
12. Kelly Smith YAM 13 13
13. Broc Hepler SUZ 11 18
14. Tommy Hahn HON 35 10
15. Rob Kiniry HON 29 11

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250 Points
Ricky Carmichael 247
Chad Reed 178
Kevin Windham 176
David Vuillemin 148
Ernesto Fonseca 143
James Stewart 118
John Dowd 118
Travis Preston 117
Michael Byrne 93
Juss Laansoo 85
Nick Wey 80
Josh Dement 78
Ryan Clark 61
Jason Thomas 56
Tim Ferry 52



125 Points
Mike Brown 193
Ivan Tedesco 169
Grant Langston 163
Josh Grant 158
Mike Alessi 157
Davi Millsaps 111
Andrew Short 105
Matt Walker 103
Broc Hepler 103
Ryan Hughes 103
Danny Smith 98
Paul Carpenter 83
Kelly Smith 79
Ryan Mills 75
Nate Ramsey 64

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Notes: AMA Pro Racing announced that two riders were penalized 25 points each for using illegal fuel at round four at on June 19

here's some stuff on chad reed's DNF
In 250 moto one, Yamaha’s Chad Reed stormed out to an impressive holeshot, only to soon suffer “bike problems” and drop out; obviously very upset.


now this really does hurt him for the point standings/race for title. it would have been tough anyway..:rolleyes:

[k-dub]

Chad Reed has really impressed me this year. He has really stepped up his outdoor riding. It's a shame he is having so many bike problems this year (this is the 3rd I know of counting supercross.) It's like he said, this stuff shouldn't happen to a factory rider. Bubba either needs to step onto a 450, or quit saying he would be winning if he were. The bike has been tested for a while now, so crap or get off the pot. I don't have a lot of respect for people who quit, but he has so much talent it's a shame. Ricky is the best outdoor rider ever. Nobody will take an outdoor championship from him as long as he chooses to ride. Im amazed every time I watch him ride. The 125 class has become really interesting this year. I thought Hepler would be running away with it by now. But as it stands Im happy for Mike Brown and hope he holds onto it. It will be cool to see a privateer win the title. So far it looks like Im going to be right in the 250 supercross and outdoors champs but nothing else! I predicted RC to rule all, Hepler and Davi for the 125 indoors and Hepler for the outdoors. Oh, well, there's always next year.

[phortwunty]

Originally posted by k-dub
Ricky is the best outdoor rider ever.

Correction my good sir, Ricky is the best to ever ride a bike period. Indoors or outdoors the man is amazing. :D

[MikeyFMX]

well i always liked Rc and knew he was good. but when i saw him ride with my own eyes. I truely realised how good america is for riding and how he dominates..

[k-dub]

Originally posted by phortwunty
Correction my good sir, Ricky is the best to ever ride a bike period. Indoors or outdoors the man is amazing. :D

Well....McGrath won more supercross titles then Ricky has. So that's why I say outdoors. But the numbers are on your side. Ricky has the most wins ever, by a mile. But for my money MC will always be the king of Supercross.

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i don't think RC will even touch MC's record at the spercross wins. given he is young, he will start to get slower...eventually. noon thought it would happen to MC but it did, then again he's having a baby and is married etc etc.

[ThE DoMen OmEn]

Stewart needs to pull his act together. How is it that he used to post faster lap times on a 125, then RC was doing on a 250, but when on near equivellent bikes, RC runs away from him without breaking a sweat. Bubbas head must've gotten a little big, hopefully we'll see him step it up a notch in the near future.

[k-dub]

Originally posted by ThE DoMen OmEn
Stewart needs to pull his act together. How is it that he used to post faster lap times on a 125, then RC was doing on a 250, but when on near equivellent bikes, RC runs away from him without breaking a sweat. Bubbas head must've gotten a little big, hopefully we'll see him step it up a notch in the near future.

Well I think it's like David Bailey said, "Bubba needs to learn to ride a 250 like a 250 instead of a 125." As weird as it sounds, he can't ride everything like he could a 125. I know people that are extremely fast on a 125, but can't come close to the same speed on a big bike. Who would have thought Bubba would have the same problem?

[Crazy7_Mx]

yeah i wish bubba got better.
I used 2 be stoked 2 hear about bubbas weekend 4 the race results but now im just like o yeah bubba got 2 or 3 or 5th or wat eva. Kdub is still my fav always will be hes gonna go good this yr. But i startin 2 think(alway knew he was)hes 2 quick

[ThE DoMen OmEn]

Yah, I see what you mean about not being to ride a 250 like you can a 125, but what I can't see is someones laptimes being SLOWER on a 250, then on a 125. I'm not sure his laptimes are slower, but im just comparing him being FASTER then all the 250 riders on a 125, now being off the pace by quite a bit.

Another good exmaple of someone who can't ride a 250 like a 125, even though hes probably the most talented rider out their.....Travis Pastrana.

[FleshFox132]

Originally posted by k-dub
Well....McGrath won more supercross titles then Ricky has. So that's why I say outdoors. But the numbers are on your side. Ricky has the most wins ever, by a mile. But for my money MC will always be the king of Supercross.

I think that if mc had continued to race outdoors he would be alot closer to rc's overall win record, maybe even still ahead of it...mc was good outdoors too...

[MuLiShA fAn]

yeah i think RC will take the outdoors series for sure
but i think next year he wont get the supercross series
well i hope Reed can take it but i know its gonna be tough with K-dub,Bubba,Reed and RC all fighting with the points the hole season
i love it when the points are really tight and there all fighting to win and stuff

[k-dub]

Yeah alot of people are picking Reed for the supercross next year. My money is still on Ricky. He stepped it up and won very easy this year, and he will do it again. He knew what Chad and Bubba had done to there bikes to speed them up towards the end of the season (suspension changes) and Ricky didn't want to mess with his because it is what got him the championship. Plus he rode safe. It will be close between RC and Reedy, but my money is still on Ricky. Bubba will take some wins, but he is far to inconsistent to battle for the title towards the end. I think he will be injured again.

[BTG]

Yeah, I think it will be a repeat of this year, he will get the job done early in the season then cassually cruze to the chapionship.

[MuLiShA fAn]

i cant beleave that bubba landed on RC......... :nono:
thats a pretty stupid thing to do especially becasue RC probaly has more respect from ppl and his been around longer and is like an OG compared to bubba and now everyone probaly thinks bubbas' a ####

[MuLiShA fAn]

Reeds coming down to Australia on November the 8th i think to race in Geelong as a found razer for a track thats getting shut down so it should be good becasue i havent seen him riding in Aus for a few years....
so any Aussy's in Vic should defently go down and have a look