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st3ve
May 16th, 2005, 07:12 PM
well, if you make a lip too thin it gets blown out pretty quick and if its too wide quads go over it and ruin it so..i devised a simple tip, shape it like a diamond

k-dub
May 16th, 2005, 08:50 PM
It will never work! Quads are death to all wide faced jumps that will ever be built. End of story. I too have felt the pain of building a nice kicker only to have it destroyed by quad riders. It sucks. But they can't be stoped. I applaude your idea though. Just hit a narrow rutted jump and they will leave it alone.

The Professor
May 17th, 2005, 12:04 AM
ill quad on your jump any day and every day suckah HAHAHAHAHAHA :o i only have a utility 4-wheeler and iv never seen a sand dune before :(

Crazy7_Mx
May 17th, 2005, 12:28 AM
i dont get the deal??

any better pics?

st3ve
May 17th, 2005, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by Crazy7_Mx
i dont get the deal??

any better pics?

ill try to get pics of the lip we're building for this distance jump we are digging out on this hill. if you shape it litransistion like a diamond most quad riders will be more reluctant to hit it due to the fact its tapered and it wont be a smooth

cr_fmx
May 18th, 2005, 02:28 AM
Thats a pretty good idea i reckon, nothin personal against quad riders, they are heaps sick and all but i reckon they should build their own up ramps suitable for their 4 wheels

maxakerman77
May 18th, 2005, 08:32 AM
if its packed down rite and the quad rider knows how to ride you shouldnt have a problem with him ruining your jumps.

st3ve
May 18th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by maxakerman77
if its packed down rite and the quad rider knows how to ride you shouldnt have a problem with him ruining your jumps.

the glass is half full for you bro:p

mojojojo
May 19th, 2005, 12:24 PM
fact is QUEADS ruin jumps and i think all dirtbikers hate QUADS for that, it's kinda like skaters and blader. and yes im sorry to tell u this, but the quads are the bladers

BShipmanFilms
May 19th, 2005, 01:15 PM
for some of the talent i have seen on these boards... you shouldnt have a problem cuz an idiot on a quad cant keep it at stedy throttle all the way through jumps... c'mon, i even get mad at some quads because they cant ride up takeoffs without revv'in their motors and spinning tires where it creates a dip, but thats no for all of them.. if you have ever seen a strictly quad track, chances are its nicely done and no dips.. because they dont let goon quads on it, so all it is are experienced riders with respect for the track and they know what to do.. so, whoever is screwin ur jumps up.. must not know how to ride

Yz_man_707
May 19th, 2005, 01:20 PM
i hate quads, just too big, go race cars or something geeze whats the point. and they mess up turns.

whipped out
May 19th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by hondafmx400
so, whoever is screwin ur jumps up.. must not know how to ride

you just labeled 99% of quad riders! cheers!!


we usally take junk and spread it around the take off if the quad rider is willing to dragg the gas grills and kiddie pools off the take off then I guess its fair game to them!! but those lazy couch riders usally never bother to get off they just look for somthing else to distroy

BShipmanFilms
May 19th, 2005, 06:36 PM
you have no clue what you are saying.. youre just kinda talkin out of nowhere...

st3ve
May 19th, 2005, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by hondafmx400
for some of the talent i have seen on these boards... you shouldnt have a problem cuz an idiot on a quad cant keep it at stedy throttle all the way through jumps... c'mon, i even get mad at some quads because they cant ride up takeoffs without revv'in their motors and spinning tires where it creates a dip, but thats no for all of them.. if you have ever seen a strictly quad track, chances are its nicely done and no dips.. because they dont let goon quads on it, so all it is are experienced riders with respect for the track and they know what to do.. so, whoever is screwin ur jumps up.. must not know how to ride

quads ruin jumps dude, no matter what. i feel bad for real quad riders, they get labeled as retards because 98% of them are dumb and ride around with no helmet and with a beer in their hand.

k-dub
May 19th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by st3ve
quads ruin jumps dude, no matter what. i feel bad for real quad riders, they get labeled as retards because 98% of them are dumb and ride around with no helmet and with a beer in their hand.

You forgot the mullet! Every good quad rider must have the mighty mullet!!

st3ve
May 20th, 2005, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by k-dub
You forgot the mullet! Every good quad rider must have the mighty mullet!!

:D i dont want this to start into a flame war, but its the truth.

motorider228
May 20th, 2005, 08:37 AM
i dont really mind quads because i can do most jumps on tracks even after they destroy them, it just takes more work. what i hate more is when one destroys all the good lines in the corners :6shooter:

dan_guetter
May 21st, 2005, 12:49 AM
man get over it......

dan_guetter
May 21st, 2005, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by st3ve
quads ruin jumps dude, no matter what. i feel bad for real quad riders, they get labeled as retards because 98% of them are dumb and ride around with no helmet and with a beer in their hand.


I can see your point.....trust me, id rather put a bullet in my head than sport a mulllet.

There are alot of morons out there who make our sport look like a circus.....then you have people like us, who try to push this sport......to the next level.....but no matter how hard we try, the beer drinking, mullet sporting rider with no helmet jacks it up for everyone.

KTM-KID
May 22nd, 2005, 03:43 PM
hey i know how to keep quad riders off your jumps?? Just make them longer then 20ft that will keep 98% off em off...lol

motorider228
May 22nd, 2005, 07:52 PM
haha yeah i agree with ktm kid, if you put a gap of atleast like 40 feet the crappy quad riders that destrpy lips wont hit the jump. problem solved.

C.O.mx
May 22nd, 2005, 08:15 PM
haha yea and you gotta make the landing be a really hard case so if you come up short your done.

L & L Racing
May 22nd, 2005, 08:29 PM
im geitn a yfz 450 in 3 days!!! :D

MXQuadRacer
May 22nd, 2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by motorider228
haha yeah i agree with ktm kid, if you put a gap of atleast like 40 feet the crappy quad riders that destrpy lips wont hit the jump. problem solved.

This kid said it perfect quads can't clear more than 40ft gaps:o

k-dub
May 22nd, 2005, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by MXQuadRacer
This kid said it perfect quads can't clear more than 40ft gaps:o

I think the whole 40 feet thing works for dirtbikes as well. If it takes some skill, people that would roll and hop the jump all day leave the lip alone. Man I get tired of fixing lips that little punks roll all day! But I guess they need to learn somewhere.

motorider228
May 22nd, 2005, 10:19 PM
if you also noticed in my post i said the crappy quad riders that destroy lips. I dont mind it when guys can actually ride their quads and they are one the same track as me, i just hate the slow pokes that crush the faces on the lips. I also know that there are many guys out there that can jump quads insane distances and i think thats pretty cool.

WaussInd
May 24th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Its not so much that all quad riders suck. It's just that most of them do. If you can jump 40+ or whatever whoever said back in this thread, great.. you're probably better than most others on quads. But it really sucks when you spend a bunch of time building a nice lip, hit it a few times, and when you come back to it, you notice that a crappy quad rider has come and rolled over your jump and effed it all up. Same goes for dirtbikers. The thing is, there are more dirtbikers that will jump 40+ feet than there are quad riders.

I just hate it when someone rolls over a lip and ruins it. I don't care who you are. But you gotta admit.. stereotypes don't come out of nowhere. Most quad riders really DON'T wear helmets and most have coolers of beer with them. hahah. At least most in Reno, do. The rest around here just do stupid little slides all day and call themselves pro. I have yet to see a talented quad rider in Reno. That's not to say they don't exist, though...

mojojojo
May 24th, 2005, 12:12 AM
OMG now i undertand wha he means u have to make the begining od the jump thin, and then it can get wider(that way if a quad tries to hit it they will either fall flat on there face of get stuck at the base of the jump.

that would work im gunna build me sum of those LOL

motorider228
May 24th, 2005, 08:42 AM
hahahaha yeah wauss your right about the beer coolers and stuff, out here in missouri they put huge mud paddle tires on their quads and they have snorkels on them and they only wear overalls with them and they drive through huge mud pits. my friend and I were at this freeriding spot an hour or so from my house and as we were unloading and gearing up in the parking lot we realized there were over 200 rednecks there on their quads. They all made fun of us calling us "racer Q**ers" because we had matching gear and bikes that were only a year old at the time. They were all drinking their milaukees best and old syle and throwing their cans in the woods and this lake and they were shooting their guns off an dstuff. I know not ALL quad riders are stupid like that but you are correct that stereotypes come from somewhere.

YZdRtRyDr125
May 26th, 2005, 04:30 PM
i hate it when quads come on the track and ruin the ruts. then when i try to get around them i have a hard time because 1. they are big 2. they ride all over the track acting like they want to run you over. the only good time i had with a quad on the track was a guy(actaully had a helmet and was a nice guy) that gave me a ride to the truck when i had a really bad crash. other than that they do nothing but piss me off. last weekend we had some decent ruts at the track until the quads came:m16:

BShipmanFilms
May 26th, 2005, 06:07 PM
hmm.. some of the 2 wheeled guys on here cant do 40ft.. so shut the hell up..

Yz_man_707
May 26th, 2005, 06:13 PM
what u do is go over to the quad guys and steal that little safety pull cord thing and throw it in the woods. ride and when they find it go home before they run your ### over.

st3ve
May 26th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by hondafmx400
hmm.. some of the 2 wheeled guys on here cant do 40ft.. so shut the hell up..


hey man, i know what it feels like to be singled out but lets try not to let this start into a big flame war..
the same goes for everyone else. yes im not a mod but seriously, lets not get this locked..

motorider228
May 27th, 2005, 01:02 AM
i will also agree with someone else in this thread who said that the dirtbikers that roll jumps are almost as bad, so its not just quads.

Yz_man_707
May 27th, 2005, 11:33 AM
im use to riding rough tracks because of the dirt in this area. only 1 track races full sized quads, uxbridge has quads but they only kill the inside lines on turns, and i dont race at that 1 track that races full sized quads:D

motorider228
May 27th, 2005, 07:42 PM
yeah thats what i said, i hate it most when quads kill the good lines through corners. There is no arguing that, All quads kill good lines in corners even the good ones......they actually do it worse from sliding the corners.

gudac
May 28th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by L & L Racing
im geitn a yfz 450 in 3 days!!! :D

your freaken stuped. Does braging make you feel better?

st3ve
May 28th, 2005, 09:14 PM
while its true someone rolling off a lip on a bike ruins it too, but the quad does twice as much damage..:(

Zak
May 29th, 2005, 12:14 AM
ah after looking at it for an hour, i get it!

It starts skinny, and gets big :)

I thought it ment that the jump turned...like the ones where all the guys throw nice whips over and land somewhere off the side :)


Hehe... the quad would get stuck or fall off to one side...if they even atempted it hehe... Good Idea..



Tried it out yet?:twisted: :twisted:

The Professor
May 29th, 2005, 11:22 PM
a quad jumped off my 50 landing and crushed it :(

FleshFox132
May 30th, 2005, 01:39 PM
I'm sorry, but making the jumps bigger doesn't help, they then just roll the jumps and pin the throttle on the backsides, including the landing, and landings with quad ruts suck, there's no way around it, the numerous dumba**s on quads make the few quad riders who actually know how to ride and not be a dumba** look bad...

yzrida125
June 2nd, 2005, 08:59 AM
it's kinda like skaters and blader. and yes im sorry to tell u this, but the quads are the bladers [/B][/QUOTE]
haha i never looked at it that way:p thats true

cr_fmx
June 4th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Its funny how yesterday a quad is a farm bike, and today its this insanely large peice of machine that does back flips & destroys MX tracks

fatairsteve
June 5th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by motorider228
hahahaha yeah wauss your right about the beer coolers and stuff, out here in missouri they put huge mud paddle tires on their quads and they have snorkels on them and they only wear overalls with them and they drive through huge mud pits. my friend and I were at this freeriding spot an hour or so from my house and as we were unloading and gearing up in the parking lot we realized there were over 200 rednecks there on their quads. They all made fun of us calling us "racer Q**ers" because we had matching gear and bikes that were only a year old at the time. They were all drinking their milaukees best and old syle and throwing their cans in the woods and this lake and they were shooting their guns off an dstuff. I know not ALL quad riders are stupid like that but you are correct that stereotypes come from somewhere.

Which freeriding spot?
There are no good places to ride around here anymore.

motorider228
June 5th, 2005, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by fatairsteve
Which freeriding spot?
There are no good places to ride around here anymore.

it was this place down by the ozarks, my friend took me, its not worth the drive though. He thought it would be cool but it wasnt.

fatairsteve
June 6th, 2005, 10:02 AM
Deepwater?

That place used to be sick like 8 years ago when it was built up.
The army core of engineers used to (and maybe still does) maintain it, and at one point they had a whole bunch of jumps build up out of nowhere, and it was awesome.
But now the quads tore down the good lips - they don't even enforce helmet rules down there.. so there are literally overweight mulleteers riding around with beer in hand tearing down the good jumps.... Boo!

motorider228
June 6th, 2005, 11:24 AM
i asked my friend where we went again and he said deep water, i dont know why i was thinking lake of the ozarks since that is truman lake....what ever i didnt drive i slept the whole way there and back. However there were some good hits but we had to search for them and i had to utilize my flat head shovel alot. I built a lip on this hill that was like 10 feet high and it was a step up that was probably like 65 feet and i hit it a few times then we went to the truck to eat lunch and i came back and quads were all over it having a good ole time, thats the reason i will never go back there, everything good we made got ruined by drunk red necks.

fatairsteve
June 6th, 2005, 12:07 PM
Motorider -
what are you doing today?
Me and this kid from Desoto are gonna go scope potential spots and maybe do some riding?

If you are interested my phone number is on fmxschool contact us (http://www.fmxschool.com/contactus.htm)

motorider228
June 6th, 2005, 12:28 PM
i cant do anything with my bike for a while, i crashed and busted my forks and broke abunch of spokes. shoot me a pm if you guys find any good spots.

kevo
July 5th, 2005, 04:08 AM
yer, daMN rite! all you kicker ruining 4 wheeled phuckers can go and eat sheit! im phucking sik n tired of building a new ramp to later find it pounded into the ground!
quad riders who dont trash others jumps are ok.
BUT FOR YOU OTHER faagets who cant keep your balance on two wheels and therefore ride on 4.............................. LIK MY BALLS:m16:




:twisted:

FarNorthArmy
July 5th, 2005, 04:29 PM
i think that there are quaders that wont hit #### they know they cant to do or reck and theres other ones that just go out there to piss off any one and every one. but its the same for every thing around. where i live there are some dumb a$s dirtbikers. they go on the bmx dirt jumps and rut them right out and rip up and down the road at 2 in the morning. well what im saying is you cant win at anything there are just some well lots of dumb people in the world.

FFR_JeStEr03
July 5th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by kevo
yer, daMN rite! all you kicker ruining 4 wheeled phuckers can go and eat sheit! im phucking sik n tired of building a new ramp to later find it pounded into the ground!
quad riders who dont trash others jumps are ok.
BUT FOR YOU OTHER faagets who cant keep your balance on two wheels and therefore ride on 4.............................. LIK MY BALLS:m16:




:twisted:


whay to bypass the swear filter...NOT

i think they should jsut keep it separate like for instance,lake elsinore mx has a separate quad track,if its like that its fine,let the bikes ride the bike trackas and the couches ride their tracks

kevo
July 6th, 2005, 03:00 AM
yer i suppose that could work too

gudac
July 8th, 2005, 10:49 AM
ok... There is no reason to say quad riders runnen everything.. Like my friend Lance... He rides a 450 and he wont hit a motorcycle jump.. He will go make his own or one 4 wheel one that some body else has hit.. Some quad riders are dicks.. but not all. Most of them are pretty cool. I love dirt bikes.. but you have to admit it is fun to get on a 4 wheeler sometimes and mess around.

BTG
July 8th, 2005, 03:37 PM
i think they should jsut keep it separate like for instance,lake elsinore mx has a separate quad track,if its like that its fine,let the bikes ride the bike trackas and the couches ride their tracks

I agree, however at the track I ride at it has a quad track but for some reason the quad rider want to come an destroy the MX track and it blows. They tear up all the corners untill there is no line and the corners are nothing but fine silt. the track does not water that often so when you have even 1 or 2 quads its a total dust pit so bad you cant hardly see anything. So for all the quad riders out there that ride tooele, stay the f$ck off the MX track and ride the "quad track". Thanks and have a good day.

bryan
July 8th, 2005, 03:47 PM
I still don't understand the illustration :)

NV/HC!
July 11th, 2005, 11:40 PM
Anytime you make a sweet jump its guaranteed to get ruined by someone on a quad...oh man that pisses me off

dagsomdestroyer
July 11th, 2005, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by bryan
I still don't understand the illustration :)

hahah.. i dont either.

k-dub
July 12th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by BTG
I agree, however at the track I ride at it has a quad track but for some reason the quad rider want to come an destroy the MX track and it blows. They tear up all the corners untill there is no line and the corners are nothing but fine silt. the track does not water that often so when you have even 1 or 2 quads its a total dust pit so bad you cant hardly see anything. So for all the quad riders out there that ride tooele, stay the f$ck off the MX track and ride the "quad track". Thanks and have a good day.

Yeah no joke about Tooele. The corners are crap on that track because of quads. The good thing is that that track is way to tech for most quads to even try and get around on. God bless big doubles with small runs.

dan_guetter
July 13th, 2005, 09:00 AM
just dont rut up my lil brothers lines or he'll stab you with one of these...

:6shooter: :6shooter:

cr_fmx
July 17th, 2005, 07:27 PM
People need to have more goddamn consideration, same goes for those a holes who come and ride our BMX trails (Which we put hours, days, weeks and even months work into) on their damn 50s and even full sized trail bikes, we made those jumps with our blood sweat and tears and some f-head comes and freakin destroys them, get f-ed you inconsiderate p ricks.

So much effort and time to make something so beautiful, it only takes a blip of the throttle and a ##### hole to wreck it... :m16:

st3ve
July 18th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by cr_fmx
People need to have more goddamn consideration, same goes for those a holes who come and ride our BMX trails (Which we put hours, days, weeks and even months work into) on their damn 50s and even full sized trail bikes, we made those jumps with our blood sweat and tears and some f-head comes and freakin destroys them, get f-ed you inconsiderate p ricks.

So much effort and time to make something so beautiful, it only takes a blip of the throttle and a ##### hole to wreck it... :m16:

i no wut u mean, people are people..i guess theres quad riders amongst all of us:(

Chris074
July 24th, 2005, 02:57 AM
Quads are friggen wicked :cool:

mad mark solo
July 25th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by st3ve
quads ruin jumps dude, no matter what. i feel bad for real quad riders, they get labeled as retards because 98% of them are dumb and ride around with no helmet and with a beer in their hand. dude i dont wish to piss any one off but i make you right about that

penuts
July 27th, 2005, 07:25 AM
or how about this way get my drift make a lip anywhere on anything you can find but make it on an angle and like a noarrow rut kinda deal only wide enough to fit a bike on there a quad cant hit it casue itll just go sideways get my drift

penuts
July 27th, 2005, 07:25 AM
so instead of having a lip across a wide face just angle it so its narrow

motorider228
August 5th, 2005, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by cr_fmx
People need to have more goddamn consideration, same goes for those a holes who come and ride our BMX trails (Which we put hours, days, weeks and even months work into) on their damn 50s and even full sized trail bikes, we made those jumps with our blood sweat and tears and some f-head comes and freakin destroys them, get f-ed you inconsiderate p ricks.

So much effort and time to make something so beautiful, it only takes a blip of the throttle and a ##### hole to wreck it... :m16:

off subject but whats even worse than that is when kids find your shovels and decide to do some lip doctoring on your trails.

KmKrider
August 10th, 2005, 04:09 AM
why trip on quad riders they are down as ###k if they have that much talent on a quad just thinkk how badass they would ride on 2 wheels because hitting a ramp on a quad is straight balls DGAF give a sick quad rider a thumper theyd probably be sick as ###k

rm100kid
August 11th, 2005, 06:27 PM
what u guys are describing isnt quad riders but stupid redneck jerks.guys who ride around sliding and rolling over lips arent quad riders in general but just some stupid kid who thinks hes cool cause he can ride on four wheels. although i can agree with quads messing up lines and thats y i ride my quad on what i build cause i know what its like to put ur blood, sweat, and tears into a jump and have the whole thing ruined just cause some jack#####is trying to look cool.

rm100kid
August 11th, 2005, 06:30 PM
and sorry to say, but alot of quad riders are like that.

st3ve
August 12th, 2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by rm100kid
what u guys are describing isnt quad riders but stupid redneck jerks.guys who ride around sliding and rolling over lips arent quad riders in general but just some stupid kid who thinks hes cool cause he can ride on four wheels. although i can agree with quads messing up lines and thats y i ride my quad on what i build cause i know what its like to put ur blood, sweat, and tears into a jump and have the whole thing ruined just cause some jack#####is trying to look cool.


you just contradicted yourself..lol

*punkrock*
August 15th, 2005, 10:48 PM
stick a board with nails in at the bottom of the lip after your done, thattl teach them
mwahaha

hondaryder63
August 23rd, 2005, 06:45 PM
i toatlly get what ur saying it works 2 ive tryed a small bmx kinda version and it works im working on a jump on the side hill sorta like it ill get a pic eventually

nausty
August 25th, 2005, 07:44 PM
yea i hate how most quad riders are hicks and have no idea what they are doin.

What works best for the bikes imo is to hit the middle of jump then have the quad lines right on each side of it.


Other then that we got stuff we hate bout dirt bikers and u guys got #### u hate bout us.


All in all I think both of get on each others nerves a lot but in the end we know each is a hell of a lot cooler then any other sport out there.

gary2teeth
August 29th, 2005, 03:34 AM
yeah we have the same problem in the week when we are at work those damn school kids on their qauds ride up our freestyle landing and down the other side.so now our whole saftey deck has been ridden away.but this weekend we are getting a TLB in to fix it up,so we came up with a idea,dig a trench about 3 foot wide and 5 foot deep,just in front of the face so when they come down its to late and it will only take one of them to ride into it.

MXQuadRacer
September 7th, 2005, 06:27 PM
We run quads against the bikes, at out our 6-acre track. Our bikes like using the quad lines for their own lines. Any track just needs heavy maintenence and heavy respect. It's a shame that anyone (bikes or quads) wreck the image of either sport. Sad if someone doesn't have enough respect to do it right, or don't do it at all.

john88
September 22nd, 2005, 08:20 PM
i think there should be a banne on selling quads too hicks they have a few beers and they think they are the bomb but really they are making a fool of themselves and give the decent quad riders a bad name while making it hard for everyone else by destroying tracks and jumps i think they should make there own compound aka (HICKS VILL) some dik hit my mum on a quad and the stupid little f%^ker rode off stupid little p RiCk